im thinking of runing race gas in a 97 civic 4dr ex/i think it was 2450 pounds or so i just want to run low 13s on drag radials and 12 mids on slicks what do you guys think all motor i just want to beat this one guy that has a type r swap with built head and hondata and always on street tires need help

How much are you willing to spend?

not to bash non-vtec motors...but you will have a lot easier time achieving 220 whp on like a b20/vtec motor than on a non-vtec...most ive seen a non-vtec motor N/a do is 200whp

Most of us only see ls motor compression in the 11's. But no one really want to try is 13.1:1 and up. Of course it's not gas pump friendly , gonna have to use race gas. Gas is the main issue that no one want a high compression motor. I think it can be achieve, just no one or almost anyone has try yet.

damn but what would a 210 hp setup give me in the 1/4 mile i drive a 97 civic4dr im just trying to run 12.5 with mixed gas any thoughts

um if you want that much power and to be streetable...boost it or supercharge the motor on like 7 psi... but if u want all motor then i would go vtec IMO...not to bash but its a lot easier

ls vtec would be the easy way to get it. i dont know about 220hp. maybe try p30 pistons. good port and polish. take center layer of head gasket out. run crower 405's. hmmmmmmmm. and a small n2o shot. might blow up but im sure youll get 220

Pal...no LS is going to hit 220 WHP NA....period. I make 246 whp...on 9 psi.

Well whoever is building your engine if they are good they can make that much hp. Look at Bisimoto with a freakin' F22b running mid 9's with a uni body single slammer.

With enough money and attention to detail, you can make that much HP.

I should have said no "streetable" LS will ever make that much power......

Ithink it is possible but its going to cost you.

If money is a concern replace your rod bolts with ARP products get an Egay turbo kit and run boost on 8-10 lbs and get a tune and you'd reach those numbers quickly. It's cheaper than all motor.

I ran 13:1 compression on 93 octane unleaded. Just tune REALLY well. If you're willing to go with super high compression, race gas and a cam/port job that matched that compression (like 15:1), then I'm sure you could make your power goal.

What's the spec. of the motor, dyno, and did you ever run it at the track?

try some weber carbs, and u could use a custom cam grind but its gonna cost u and u need someone to get the specs to make the power u lookin for

Side draft carbs do atomize fuel better and you'll need all the help you can get. I had a B20 that was bored .20 over(I know it wasn't safe) and was built to death for N/A with 404's, full valvetrain, 12:1 JE's, and a B16 tranny with a 7lbs flywheel tuned on an AEM EMS. On the Dyno it only made 191hp to the wheels and 179 lbs/ft of torque. Granted it was good in a gutted 92 CX hatch with slicks for a very pleasant 13.1 the single cam turbo I put in the car later ran a 12.9 in Atlanta and made 246hp and I only had about $800 in that entire setup.