ok im new to the forums and just wanted to shoot some ideas out there to see what people thought. i want to make a all motor ls with spray my question is if i use eagle h beam rods and maybe b16 pistons what shot will they hold up other supporting mods will be 404 cams skunk2 springs and retainers i need help on picking valves custom p & p on the head custom ported header skunk2 intake manifold custom intake with k&n filter and skunk2 68mm throttle body as far as tuning goes im undecided could i get away with a http://phearable.net/ chipped ecu for now then go to crome or neptune or hondata and if so what should i get i was thinking crome but im unsure budget is decent nothing great but i want all motor with juice as i already have n20 kit and some eagle h beam rods

come on guys

the rods will be able to handle it...but if you get cast b16 pistons they are more prone to detonation...i would get forged pistons as well and ur stock crank should be fine...as for the whole nitrous tune thing...get hondata s300 and have one all motor tune and then have another tune for your nitrous...hondata is sweet with nitrous i had it on mine...you set your parameters such as throttle percentage, rpms, speed ect...and once all those parameters are met the hondata switches over to the nitrous fuel map automatically...and if you dont have the nitrous system armed, then you will have ur all motor tune to have fun as well

check out my build thread for my b18b all motor with nitrous

ok well what if i dont have the money got a s300 right now would a pherable.net ecu tuned with there basemap be ok for a while on like 100shot until i get a s300

Crome chip the stock ecu and tune with that. FYI I had a stock B20 that had 404's and vlavetrain with a 100 tuned on CROME and it held up for over a year. As a matter of fact I pulled the motor out and sold it still running. I think the rods would be a bit overkill unless you were going to boost or shoot a 150 shot of nitrous. The stock piston would be more prone to detonation but you can work with them as long as you're putting enough fuel to them. Your best friend with nitrous would most definitely be a Progressive controller but a good tune would work just as good.

what exactly does it do because i have a msd ignition switch that tells my nitrous to turn on and off

#71900 offers you the ability to select and individually program the nitrous parameters to optimize traction and chassis control, as well as ramping up your nitrous safety system. The end result is quicker ETs and less engine and chassis abuse.

Other highlights of Edelbrock's Progressive Nitrous Controller include:

* Full digital circuitry, which offers precision control that analog systems can't match.
* A nitrous starting percentage and final percentage that controls the initial and final nitrous hit from 10 percent to100 percent
* An intelligent nitrous progressive timer that monitors the activation input and can be configured to hold and wait or reset with gear changes.
* A +12-volt timer output that provides activation control over an ignition retard controller or a second stage of nitrous.
* A nitrous power ramp build time that effectively allows you to time how quickly you want to ramp your nitrous system from the starting to final percentage in .200 - 9.900 seconds.
* A nitrous delay timer programmable from .200 - 9.900 seconds
* A sophisticated non-volatile flash memory that doesn't require a battery or power to retain your settings until you want to change them.
* An integrated battery voltage monitor that periodically displays battery voltage.
* A single or dual ramp feature that offers the option of stair-stepping the nitrous build time and percentage to control a single-stage nitrous system in two levels.

In short you can use it to "ramp" the nitrous and fuel so it doesn't hit all at once. This will do a few things; Give you better launch traction, more consistent power band, and most importantly ease the stress on your motor.