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 Post subject: first integra
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:56 am 
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hi everyone. im new too this site and new too the honda scene. i own a 96 integra and im rebuilding my motor. b18b1 is what i see stamped on the block. I want to put p30 pistons, but will i be able to use the stock head gasket and stock crankshaft? could really use the advice thanx...


Current setup:
injen cold air intake
DC headers
5zigen catback
msd wires and ignition
portn polished head
gsr tranny


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 Post subject: Re: first integra
PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:38 am 
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Yes you can use the stock head gasket with the p30 pistons. The p30's are a direct fit with the ls rods. Also put in some bigger cams so you don't undercam.


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 Post subject: Re: first integra
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:40 am 
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Thanks redxiii. should i gowith the crower 403's or 404's


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 Post subject: Re: first integra
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:21 am 
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For the p30's I would go with the 404's, but don't forget to get the right valvetrain, also a skunk2 or blox IM & highflow cat that will help out the 404's. I see you edit your post, I was going to put some info & a couple of link to help you decide what cams & cr work best together. Let me know if you would still like me to post it. I'm no tuner/headporter so I don't know how your p&p will affect your power band.

Edit: the 404's idle like crap


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 Post subject: Re: first integra
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:45 am 
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yea that would be very helpful.. what doya mean they idle like crap? like the v8 with cams or something like that..


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 Post subject: Re: first integra
PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:19 am 
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Yeah, something like that.

Ok here we go.

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Originally posted by MichaelDelaney on Apr/28/03 at team-integra.net
Get your intake cam's ABDC valve closing spec.

Convert the bore and stroke to in.

Find out the altitude of where you live in ft. If you can't find it then enter 400 or zero for sea level.

Go to the dynamic calculator link in the MD Forum Common Topics.

Enter all the relevant data for your stock or baseline setup (including your current CR) and record the cranking pressure.

Change the CR. in the calculator..enter the CR you want or go midway . When you go past a 10-15% change in cranking pressure, you've gone too high on the CR...your limit.

If you want more than this CR limit, then you need to use bigger cams to lower the cranking pressure back to within that 15% range near the baseline. If the cranking pressure is too high you're undercamming the engine.

Bigger N/A cams (not FI cams) have longer durations. The longer the duration, the later the intake valve closes. The later the intake valve closes the more chance that the pressure in the cylinder may leak out into the intake port and reduce your cranking pressure with that higher CR that you wanted.

Usually we work the other way around...we upgrade the cams after porting to get more air in to make more power and then see what CR on the pistons we need to ensure there's enough cranking pressure to turn the crank beyond the force of the combustion and to get a good burn to ensure all of the air we put in gets burned.

You want to increase the CR first...that's ok but now you know that there's a working relationship between cams and the CR (piston dome size) and must find the limit based on whether you will spend cams with that or not.

Everything is a thought out planned decision when you build an engine. It isn't get this part , then get that part, then get another part.

You look at the goals and then find the specs that deliver those goals. This way you control your engine's destiny rather than the engine dictating your spending. Most people who aren't tapped into the racing world do it the other way because they don't understand (or no-one has taught them) the relationships between parts and how those relationships work. So they rely on piecemeal purchases and focus in on what the part does by itself.
We're trying to eliminate that blindspot for the members of the TI community here.


Some numbers you'll need
mm/25.4=inches
bore=81mm
stroke=89mm
rod length=137mm

ABDC
b18b is 23.5
402's is 22
403's is 37.5
404's is 44

Now plug in these numbers & aim for a 10%-15% increase in cylinder presure.http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/comprAdvHD.htm

Use this site to give you CR if you mix & match parts http://zealautowerks.com/bseries.html

Edit: remember this is to help you decide what cam & cr work best together for your goals


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 Post subject: Re: first integra
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:26 am 
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Can i still run the stock cams temporarily? after i put the p30's in...


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 Post subject: Re: first integra
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I would just wait till you get the cams that way you only have to tune it once. Just remember to put in higher octane fuel & tow it to your tuner when you put these in. Detonation is not a good thing :nonnon


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 Post subject: Re: first integra
PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:10 am 
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its been a while. is there anything else i need too upgrade before i put the motor back together?? And wat would my 1/4 times would be at the track? without nos..


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 Post subject: Re: first integra
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:49 pm 
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if u do the mods listed on this page and have a good tuner, u shouldnt have a problem breaking into the 14s for sure

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