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 Post subject: Help on F series swap
PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:02 pm 
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I have a 93' accord, automatic with the 2.2 liter f22a1 SOHC.

Im planing on switchin the engine since the valves may be bent in the engine i have now.
Im not exactly sure if they are bent , but if they are its probably from the timin belt bein broke and the recent owners tryin to start it when the belt was broke.
but its not bad for 150 dollars..

but any way.

what are some good f series engines that would be pretty easy to swap , besides the one i have now.

i was thinkin about tryin to switch it to the DOHC f22b but not sure about it fiting and stuff.

can anyone help me.
i need all the help i can get.


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The easiest f-motor to swap into your accord would be the same old f22a1 you've got now. They're super plentiful and are dirt cheap... I got one for $150 and it doesn't a drop of oil.

The best f-motor to swap in would be the JDM F20B VTEC... basically a de-bored h22. However they are all OBDII and would require you to convert them to OBDI, which isn't a hugh problem, but there are easier things to do.

Honestly, I would probably swap in a DOHC F20A if you've got a 5 speed or a DOHC F22B if you've got an auto. Both will give you a nice bump in power, and neither require extensive modifications to the wiring or vacuum lines. If you can track down the ECU for the f22b (PT3 IIRC) you don't even have to run wiring for a knock censor and can actually run the IAB's both of those motors have. I'd get the f22b for more bottom end torque, but the f20a would rev quicker and higher because of better geometery. With a little searching you might find you can run the F22A6 ECU on either of the DOHC f-motors and do okay, and you can also run the H23A1 (P14) ecu from a prelude and do okay, but tracking down that elusive PT3 ecu would be your best bet.

Just realized you've got a 93, so if you've got an EX, just find another F22A6 and put that in. It's got close to the same hp and tq as the DOHC motors, but requires absolutely no tricks to make work. You're looking at about 145hp right there... the f20a runs about 150 and the f22b runs about 155-160.

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My car is a 93, its the 10th aniversery edition.
with the f22a1,
its basically the Lx model.

What all do i have to switch out if i got the F22b?


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to keep powersteeting you need to find a powersteering braket and pump from a 92-96 si prelude (h23a1 motor). Everything else from your f22a1 will work just fine. Your stock ECU will work, but it won't be perfect, same with the ECU from a prelude si. If you use a prelude ECU, you'll need to wire up a knock sensor because that ECU looks for one. Be sure to use the intake manifold that comes with the f22b because it has dual runners on it. The prelude ECU has support for them, but you can use them with vaccuum and your stock ECU.

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Go with an f22b. it's hands down the best bang for your buck, and it has more torque than most other engines, even vtak engines.


It swaps right in, with the exception of some wiring stuff you have to do to the distributor.

but that can easily be solved and avoided by using an h23 distributor.

Everything else is straight up and swaps like any other engine.

You have a few ECU options. As mentioned already, you can use your stock ecu and a p14(h23) ecu.

with the p14 you have to run a knock sensor, or you can "de-chip" it to not read it.

OR, you can run a chipped p06 and tune it.

That's what I'm running. I keep up with h22's and eventually pull on them up top. I'm tuned(by me) on a p06, and have crappy i/h/e from ebay.

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why would you down grade man get a dual cam!!

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