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 Post subject: i think iv'e bin lied to
PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:08 pm 
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everyone i talked to says ebay turbo kits suck and u need a wideband ... a friend of mine has a 98 integra ebay turbo kit and no wideband it's his daily driver for over a year now .. how can u tune with no wideband ? and why does everyone hate cheap ebay turbo's ?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:57 pm 
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If you dont have a wideband, tuning shops supply it and hook it up to tune. then they disconnect it when theyre done tuning. and ppl hate ebay turbo kits cuz some of the time the turbos are junk. and by junk i mean tons of shaft play and not even able to hold boost. but ppl get lucky and have success with them.

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^what he said

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 Post subject: Re: i think iv'e bin lied to
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had a buddy with sr20 240sx. bought a turbo off ebay and it came blown up already :nonnon

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 Post subject: Re: i think iv'e bin lied to
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what you pay for is what you get...obviously there are going to be way better parts in a 3K turbo kit as oppose to one that is 600

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 Post subject: Re: i think iv'e bin lied to
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i paid less then 600 bucks i have 4 ebay turbos and a garret i kinda peiced together i like the ebay turbos since they are cheap and better then alot of factory turbos that i have collected over the years ...guy said he tuned it himself with a 02 sensor !?!?!?!?! im not going to go cheap with a blow off valve (looking if anyone has one forsale) but this dude got the same set up i do cept it's on a b18b1 mine is on a b18a1 so not much difference ... just wondering why this guy !!! another one of my friends go throu ebay turbos every 5 days ( no bull shit) i have saw with my own eyes those ebay turbo manifolds crack but i think that is due to a heavy turbo hanging off it with all that heat im thinking i get a bracket for the turbo so it's less weight on the manifold BUt that is only theory for now (damn snow)


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 Post subject: Re: i think iv'e bin lied to
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a wideband is an oxygen sensor. it just gives you a digital and more accurate read-out of the AFR's. and yeah integraguy summed it up nice. u get what u pay for( and every once ina while some1 gets lucky with them)

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i know what a wide-band is ... i just don't want to pay for it


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 Post subject: Re: i think iv'e bin lied to
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mr spooner wrote:
a wideband is an oxygen sensor. it just gives you a digital and more accurate read-out of the AFR's. and yeah integraguy summed it up nice. u get what u pay for( and every once ina while some1 gets lucky with them)


Most Wideband O2's still have analogue outputs, not digital. They also don't give you a more accurate readout, they give you a wider spectrum of voltage readings...hence they are called wideband. Instead of sending 0v to 1v as an OEM narrowband O2 does. The wideband O2 can send between 0v to 5v signals therefore the afr's can be a wider range.

As for the ebay turbo kits, x3 on the "you get what you pay for" On the other hand a good turbo is only as good as it's complimentary parts.....specially in the engine management department...... i.e. tuning!

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i know what a wide-band is ... i just don't want to pay for it


How do you plan on tuning if you don't want to pay for a WBO2 sensor. Even if you take your car to be tuned, the shops will usually charge for the use of their WBO2 sensor. you could go old school and read plugs, however I have found that for the price of 5 sets of good quality spark plugs you could buy a WBO2S......

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 Post subject: Re: i think iv'e bin lied to
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With ebay turbo kit you get what you pay for, for sure. The turbos, waste gates and BOVs are junk for the most part. You can get a good turbo if you are lucky and/or know how to buy from. The cast manifold are good but dont flow the greatest, tubular manis are crap, they will crack. The intercoolers and piping are fine. So far the best E bay Honda parts turbo and suspension have been from JDM Sport. Project Car Mag made 300whp on a JMD Sport turbo.


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