OK, yes it is VTEC...but in the end what's important is we all love Hondas, right??? Besides that I'm just following Nathan's lead since the admins should be an example to us all! Well anyways here goes:

As a ridiculous lowballer I believe you can go a long way on an engine build for a little money, if your goals are reasonable, you are patient, and a smart & diligent shopper. These principles are what my build is based on - a 210whp, 9000+rpm, all-motor B18 VTEC with a target budget of $2500 including engine itself. So far this is what I have pulled together:

GSR Block (w/oil pump, pickup, girdle, pan & tray)
LS crank
Eagle LS Rods
JE 82mm 11.5 c/r pistons & rings
ARP head studs
STR Blockguard
Headgasket
ACL bearings
AEBS main studs
Fidanza flywheel
Greddy t-belt
Portflow retainers
JG 308/316B billet cams
JG cam gears
Ferrea valve seals
Rage big-tube tri-y race header

So it will be an 1880cc (a B19, I guess?) with the LS crank and 1mm overbore. I got scammed on the ITR head I bought a few months back, that has really set back the project, I would be finished getting all my parts by now (and withing budget!) but instead I'm nearly out of money and still don't have a head. Otherwise I'm still at just a little over $1800 total invested in all the parts listed!

I can't beleive you put that VTEC crap in this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so angry!!! I am telling Ghettokracker!!!!
Ok..just kidding. But, really Klunge...wish you would have JRSCed your car man!!! You could make my power level and spend $2000 more LOL. Good luck with the build. What happened to the B20 you were workin on?

I never had a B20 thing going. Here's how the sequence played out:

1) It was going to be all-motor LS. I had the CTR slugs, 404's, Crower springs, ported head, etc all sitting around...
2) Then I sold all that and bought the JRSC kit & a Hondata...
3) Then suddenly I got the notion to go H22! Mainly because I found a great deal on the HCP mount kit.
4) Then while I was going stir crazy not having any car stuff to work on or think about while I was working down in Mexico...my brain got to churning. Found some crazy deals on a head and block and thought "If I shop smart like this, I can build a B-VTEC more powerful and for the same money as a stock H22!"

So that's where I am today. I've always been drawn to the n/a thing, I guess it was inevitable that I end up back to this. But, as we all must admit, a similar VTEC build will pump out a solid 30whp more than a non-VTEC. However if I can't get a decent priced head to replace the one I got scammed on, I might just end up back at Option #1, all-motor LS only maybe with a 50 shot on top to level it all out...

Hmmm..I wonder why I thought that? Good luck with the build.

Probably your memory mistook the H22 for a B20, understandable considering how often I fluctuate from one plan to another I can't expect anyone to keep up. It's kind of ridiculous. I'll admit.

It's alright that its a vtec. I appreciate the hard work for a decent price more. very good work and it sounds like you went through a lot of changing your mind. frankly i would have love to have seen an h22 build but i love those motors. when i get out of school i want to completely build a b-series motor with forged internals and a full turbo for a decent price. i want to build a car 8-10k car that would spank a 30k car and be just as reliable. but thats all hopes and dreams. good luck with ur build.

It looks like any timing belt, but painted blue. I wouldn't have thought to buy one normally, I think stock ones are totally fine but this one was new for $65 shipped so I figured what the heck it's not much more than a stocker why not. Normally they're like $120-130 or something. They claim it's stronger than a stock one, I don't know but I'm sure it's at least as good.

Part of my method to selecting a build and the supporting parts is that I don't really shop for anything specific. I look at literally everything on the web I might find remotely interesting. If it's a great part at a silly price I usually check to see if anything else related to it is available within a day or two also for a crazy price. Then I grab them up and I got the makings of my new direction. Start looking for anything & everthing that might be useful for the setup and buy whatever is the insanest deal at that moment. So it all comes together in no particular order.

It's all about power per dollar, so I'm trying to see if I can make an engine for $10-$15 per hp. The typical bolt on part seems to produce power, IMO, at a rate of around $50-$100 per hp.

you bet man, trust me, its fun and feels great! haha

. . . well, i'm still kinda working on the reliable part tho, lol

I bought it from some dude on HT, so I don't know if I can replicate that bargain...sorry!

Sometimes you can score a deal from Ebay on stuff, if it's from a private party and not a dealer. People like me who buy stuff then something happens or they change their mind and sell it for a loss. Also I buy lots of used parts if I have to. Or be on the lookout for people who aren't very good at titling their auctions so they don't get discovered by many people when they search. So the competition is light and prices stay down.

yea man ebay is awesome. i dont know why so many people hate on it....


anyway.

nice plans man. just gotta keep with it.

i too change my mind more than i change my underwear. i mean one day im hell bent on LSV, the next I want CR-V, then the next day i want to sell everything i own so i can go K20...

now... of all things im comtemplating selling my LS block/crank and buying a B20 from a member on here w/high compression and slapping a p8r head on it and going with some 404's...

i dont know.

i chnage my mind toooo much.

all i need to finish my LSV is rods/pistons

You should stick with that, you're so close. If everyone did like me nobody would have anything to talk about! I never get anything done, for that matter I hardly ever even get started on anything. So I've owned this Civic for 6.5 years and have managed to get a stock LS swap into it, that's how far I've come.

This time I'm going all the way!

I read some thread from a Mustang forum yesterday where this guy with an '03 Cobra was lamenting that he got whomped by an all-motor LS/V Integra, but he was as impressed as he was surprised. Hearing that kind of stuff gives me high hopes! I would like to do mid-12's in my EK hatch.

It's always a great satisfaction when you beat a car that you're not even supposed to come close to. Mind's change a lot, I know, but once you start pull it the whole way through.
The stock timing belt is like 60 bucks so I think you got a great deal on the Greddy. I was gonna go with one but couldn't find one for a godo price.

UPDATE!!!
Well, as it's my particular idiom to change my mind after collecting the parts but before I ever use any of them...here we go again.

This project has morphed from an 82mm GSR into a B20/VTEC build. I got a decent deal on a B20 shortblock so I opted to go for the idea of even greater displacement but without having to pay for the machine work.

However, I was bummed to discover the cams I bought weren't what they were advertised as. They do appear to be JG cams but they are the milder profile, closer to Crower stage 1 than to stage 3 like I thought. Just a bit more aggressive than CTR cams.

Well I might keep them anyways, use a GSR head and some RS Machine 11.5 pistons and just see what I get out of them.

In the meantime I'm going to work on my own custom VTEC oil supply kit...

OK I'm happy! Today I picked up a GSR head/valve cover/manifold so now I have the makings of the complete longblock for the most part. Still would like to pick up aftermarket intake manifold and throttle body.

The new plan is to have the B20 block honed and decked .010 or .020, and a little bit of milling on the head and have it all cleaned up. I calculated with a GSR head, decking, and milling I can just use the stock B20Z pistons (PHK) and get between 10.6 and 11.1 c/r so that will be nice with the "CTR+" cam profile.

I realized I had to come to grips with the lack of funds and scale back some. No forged internals, 12.5 compression, Stage 4 cams, blah blah blah. A nice dream but not reasonable to attain in the near future. Still hoping for somewhere over 190whp though. If I end up with a little money left over from the build I'll shoot for maybe a 4.7 final drive or an LSD.

OK...have to scale back the build even further to a mostly stock setup cuz I got laid off today. So need to sell most of what's in the first post now to get some money in the bank. I'm living check to check like most people so in a couple weeks after I get my last one I'll be in trouble...check out my stuff and let me know! OR see my ad in the classifieds.

Another update...

Well, over teh last several months this project has gotten out of control!!! Still not done yet, 5 months later. And the car hasn't even been running for the last 3.
I think it's ended up costing me much more than if I had stuck with the GSR 82mm block. And alot more than if I had stuck with teh previous idea of an H22 swap. I'm way over $3000 invested, plus countless hours of time.

I ended up completely rebuilding the GSR head: all new Ferrea valves, guides, & seals, Buddy Club springs, Comp Cams retainers, resurface, 3-angle valve job, and an extensive DIY pnp. What was a $300 head is now over $1000.

And, I ended up buying the RS Machines pistons rather than machining valve reliefs and clearancing the stock ones. Just a continuous stream of parts coming to me, before I realized it I'm nearly double my intended budget. Shoulda just done a turbo D.

I know all about projects spinning outta control...I was just supposed to have an intake and exhaust on my car....5-6 grand later...ta DA!!! Hopefully you get her running soon.