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 Post subject: ls vs ls vtec
PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:44 pm 
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I was just wondering if a ls fully built would be quicker/faster than a ls vtec fully built in a crx.


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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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Highly doubtful. The LSV will make more power and have a better usable powerband. I could be wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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there is no way a fully built ls will come close to a ls/vetc you need a good amount of money and know how to build a reliable ls/vtec so for less money u can build a good all motor ls street car but then again that is my 2 cents

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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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im not so sure your post made sense.

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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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4sd4dr wrote:
im not so sure your post made sense.


x2... my buddy had a stock ls block, stock gsr head w/ gsr cams and bolt ons...made as much power as a stock type r...cant really get that much simplier

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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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This was going to be my build for the ls vtec. b16 head port/polish,b16 high compression pistons, rod bolts,oil sandwich,skunk2 stage 3 cams,skunk2 valves and springs and retainers,gsr water pump,integra type R oil pump, greddy gsr timing belt and maybe eagle rods. Is this the right setup for a reliable ls vtec and will all this go together good. I will also be putting all the boltons on with this. I will be putting this in a hf crx !!!! How long does these motors like this last for. Thanks for the in put. Ps I know that this is for non vtec but cant get into any of the other sites bc of who my email is though is what the sites are telling me.


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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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How much is your budget? a non vtec ls install can run you about 3000. For an lsvtec look to double that at least.


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All prices below are about average, not as hearsay for an ls vtec. I got this info from another site:

LSVTEC

LS block = 400
B16A head = 550**
Hydro tranny = 650 *GSR/SIR
Clutch = 300
Linkage = 100
Axles = 250
Engine harness = 150 *depends on OBD1 or OBD2 costs may be higher
ECU = 250 *stock GSR or programmed P28

Pistons B16A = 25/ea *cannot use with aftermarket rods.
Rings 81mm = 20/ea
ARP rod bolts = 45 *for the LS rods if you are planing on using them.

Pistons aftermarket = 425/set *comes with rings, can use on stock rods if machined.

Rods = 350 *Eagles. They are the least expensive good rods, the factory LS rods will NOT handle revs over 8000 stock, and not over 9000 with ARP rod bolts. Don't cheap out here, these are the heart of your engine. Failure here can result in all your money lost.

Rod bearings = 64
Head gasket = 55
Other misc gaskets for install = 100 (oil pan, camshaft, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, water pump, oil pump, etc, etc...)

**Assuming the head came with intake manifold, dizzy, injectors, t-body, etc, etc.....

Press pistons on - 60
Bore block, torque plate - 120
Balance crank, pistons, rods - 200
Shotpeen rods - 80
Port and polish head, intake manifold, exhaust manifold. All gasket matched - 950
Clean and tank head and block - 100

Plus Installation or you can do it yourself

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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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^ x2!!...doin a all motor nonvtec build will never really have the power potential as a vtec motor obviously... me personally i wanna do an all motor non vtec to be different

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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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Being different doesnt justify the waste of money it would be to build an all motor NA LS or B20.

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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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i agree with what most of the replys thels/vtec is a bad ass motor if build right but is also alot of money needs to be spent to do so like i said before half of the money spent on building the ls/vtec u can build a awsome power plant non vetc with some nos research this over and over so u build the right engine for your tipe of driving figue out if it will be a dd or a strip car got to honda-tech they have alot of info on pro/con of the ls/vtec for this is a non vtec forum trust me i've build both and u can't compare the to

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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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ya u really cant compare the two

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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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I already have the conversion harness,venom fuel injectors,aem fuel pressure regulator,venom fuel pump,the 90 integra ls bottom end,cable gsr tranny,axles,linkage. How long should a ls vtec fully built last? By the way this is going into a hf crx.


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 Post subject: Re: ls vs ls vtec
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Try Honda-Tech regarding questions on LSVTECs.

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