ok so im starting my build. i wanted to get a b20z but i have come across a b18a1 long block for 250. with 95k on it. i should have it in my garage in the next few weeks. i plan to for now tear it down, get the head and block cleaned up really nice. then start to build the head. this is my first time building a motor. my power goal is anywhere from 150whp to 180whp (highly unlikely for the 180whp). im open for suggestions or any info any one can give me for this build. the only parts i know that i am going to get so far is

skunk 2 intake manni
crower 402's
minor pnp work
every thing else is going to oem honda parts.
for the block id like to bump up the compression alittle. but that i will deal with when the time coes for the block to get some love.

i will post up some pics when i get the motor..and every time a get a new part in.also of course as i tear it down. to show the condition of the cyclinder walls..

Look into The Crower 403s...IMHO for an all motor, more power but their still considered "stage 2" if I recall correcetly. Sounds good,nothing wrong with a slow build. Yours is beter tha mine.


my "build" is a JRSC sitting next to my bed (yes,it really is,I bust my ass about twice a week going to p*ss at night!!!)

id rather have a jrsc to open my eyes to every mourning.

i also wanted to add that im going to sending my old throttle body into maxbore.com to have it bored and polished to itr specs.

one day 403s maybe.. but im going to build the head and then swap it over to the car.then start building the block.my old head will then get the full works from crower with either 403s or i was also checking into 404's. i want my compression ratio some where between 10.5 and 11.5. but in all honesty when it comes to buying oversized pistions and all that jazz for the block. i have no clue about. thats why its last..

the reason why i am swapping the heads once i get 402's, throttle body, and intake mani. my currect working head in the car, needs a new head gasket, i also need a new timing belt. and other minor things. and hell why not knock them all out at one time. im also going to find a nice 2ply head gasket. or if i can a metal head gasket. never have to worry about it again

I've got the 403's with my port n' polished JG head. Very popular street/strip all-motor cams. Can't wait...


Bring on the pics!!!

i will i dont have anything yet.. motor i should be getting that in the next 2 to 4 weeks. but i wont have this motor fully built top and bottem ends untill around this time next year. and then man i gotta mAke a trip to houston to get tuned. then im going to hit up the race way there in katy i think...

my 1\4 mile times that i want out of this motor is maybe high 12's to mid 13's. on the street thats enough power to give pretty much anything that coems against you a good run for the money. well atlest in the world of fwd cars.. right now gsrs are not a problem for me. even ones with intakes and cat backs..

What tranny will you go with?
I'm doing B16 S1 w/ls 5th gear. (no lsd yet )
LMK when you come to Houston, and I'll vouch for your 200whp dyno and 10.77 1/4 mile....
I'll be over at stOOpidfast getting a tune here shortly myself!

dont waste your time with the 402's go straight with the 403's. no reason to go smaller on even a bone ass stock b18a. all the cams cost the same anyway.

the power is in the head, (ie porting and big cams)
torque is in the piston (bore/compression)

you wont get much of any power or any torque with low compression or a stock head.

like i said for cams go with at least 403's

head, no point in doing a minor p+p, just get it ported to make some power.

block, throw in some b16a pistons. they are a great match for a b18 block and will give you roughly 11:1+ cr. dont forget the all important ARP rod bolts!!!

oh and your wasting your money at this point on the throttle body, that should be the last thing you touch.

IMHO what i would do if i were you is try and either buy a already ported LS head or get a spare one for as close to free as possible and have it ported and get a good valve job and mill it at least .03". get some crower 403's and adjustable cam gears as well as either a skunk2 or blox IM and some decent valvesprings. then you can do your fresh headgaskets timing belts etc and your head will actually be able to support any bottom end work rather than doing it all over again later. then get the darn thing tuned using crome.

then later down the road you can build up your shortblock pistons/rod bolts blah blah yadda yadda

i dont want to do anything that will require a tune just yet.. seriously there is nothing in austin for tuners that i trust and would let touch my car. protech blows monkey balls, and mzm ive heard so many things and both shops ive heard were involved with chop shop stuff. for now i need to fix my problems and i want alittle more power. no i wont be using 403's. on my built motor i want 404's. then the head with the 402's will be put on a stock block and dropped into a 92 civic hatch as my dd.

oh and about the transmission. i dont know yet. i jsut dropped 700 to have my ls transmission fully rebuilt. about 2 months ago. if i could find some one with a gsr transmission. thats been rebuilt. id do a str8 trade. or my transmssion plus say 300. if i had the other 400 to put down for it to be rebuilt.i dont want to to deal with a imput shaft bearing going out again...

goooooooooood luck on your shit cant wait to see it progress.

the motor in the car isnt coming out for atlest a year. i need to fix the problems that have to do with the head. i also want to add alittle more to the motor. thats why i want 402's. skunk2 intake manifold, wich will be swapped to the other motor when it comes out of the car. then im left with a spare motor thats in good condition. i save while i do the break in on the motor, and buy civic hatch to use as my daily driver. also the bored throttle body would be going on the built motor, but i have even been thinking about maybe using itb's. for right now i just want to get the motor. tear it down, get it hot tanked. then go from there. ive also been doing the research. every night for the last year.

if you dont want to tune cams dont bother, your just wasting your money. stick to bolt ons

in the end its your money but you seriously wont gain naything jsut throwing in a set of cams

i want to tune. but i dont want to make 2 trips to houston.toget tuned, that gets super expensive. butsadly enough the teeth on my crappy ass flywheel are prolly gone so im having to dump money into a new act flywheel and installation.

If your set up is not too uncommon, you can get a close approximate tune burned to a chip, and tweak it later...

ya ive thought about that. there is a guy on g2ic whoo sells chipped ecu's his name is xenocron. here is the link http://g2ic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144941. he is a sponcer on g2ic and i havent heard anything bad about him. i was going to email him and ask him some questions about a base map, and what he thought i should go with in terms of actual tuning programs.

my friend had his g2 ecu chipped by him, i dont think he had much luck with his basemaps.. but everything works great

Gonna run Neptune.... They have a new RTP (real time programmable) unit you can get that looks promising...The features this thing has are amazing!! Bluetooth tuning, and datalogging, total engine control. OBD1 Honda tuning has reached a new high.




http://www.hrtuning.com/pages/category/neptune-rtp/

i'll look into that. thanks, ya ive heard about neptune and a few others. i really need to look more into different programs. but i was going to worry about that once i had all the parts needed to build the motor. im just going to take my time with this build one part at a time

ya i should be getting my hondata s100 unit later this week or earlyer next. my build has changed. im going to cam the motor in my car. and then leave it as is and build my other motor for boost. so needless to say i have slept maybe 6 hours in the last 3 nights due to researching and all of that..