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redxiii
 Post subject: Re: Stage 1 cams (402)??
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:05 am 
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gearsspeed wrote:
dynojet numbers--/whp/--178----/tq/--136.. :super ..with sc300 hondata tune---no blow bye = nice numbers^^^ 1/4 times to come this weekend man i might break into the high 13's possible??? :quoi cuz i roached on a type R on the way to east coast honda and he thought i was a built Gsr LOL :humhihi any comments?? oh by the way it has the skunk 2 IM on it now :mrgreen:


Even with the other mods you have I still find it unlikely that you got 178whp with the 402's, stock head & stock cr. Here are some examples of other builds that have the 403's/404's, did some head work & up their cr.

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1532476
http://www.team-integra.net/forum/displ ... mmon+Topic
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 Post subject: Re: Stage 1 cams (402)??
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:51 am 
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Now lets end this stupid debate, maybe that dyno was calibrated wrong (on purpose or by mistake) to read higher I don't know & don't care. You could go to 2 different dynos on the same day & get different results, even the same dyno can give your different results on the same car. A dynos really meant as a tuning device & after that's done, pick your gearing based on your powerband location.
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 Post subject: Re: Stage 1 cams (402)??
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:44 pm 
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gearsspeed wrote:
hm well thats kool with me im 28 years old bro i got nuthin to lie about...lol...im gonna be breakin into the high 13's i know it cuz i run down 350 z's all day and 2.0t gti's :P sorry you cant get over yourself

I beat 2.0L GTIs already. I did even before I had my car tuned. VWs are slow.
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 Post subject: Re: Stage 1 cams (402)??
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 2:49 pm 
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gearsspeed wrote:
I am already making 134whp with a good tune and bolt ons. :haha :nonnon that is crap numbers your motor is whooped...do a compression test and how many miles are on the car a million i have a fresh engine at 50k lol 170 is totally possible if your not a retard...lol...the freakin motor is 142base which takes it to about 120 to the wheels ....so your tellin me you only got 14whp out of fullbolt on and a good tune???? :haha :super ok buddy

I have seen several stock Ls motors dynoed. They make around 105-110whp stock. Mine made a bit more 117whp. My motor is in great shape, 60k miles and compression is perfect. Making 130-135whp on a Ls motor with IHE and tune is normal. 170whp on a Ls motor with IHE and tune is not possible. Add a Vtec head and you are at 170whp. I am making 134whp and 127lbs on a stock Ls with IHE and tune, I have the dyno results to prove it. Thanks every one for the info on the 402 cams. They sound like great cams for a street car.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:44 am 
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gearsspeed wrote:
i dont understand the word choking...lol...i tuned hondas for a while and i learned from my brother which went to college for high performance mechanics and is ASE cert and he i literally laughing right now he built the car with me and unless your turbo this so called choking my exhaust is how do you say over thought by the regular tuner...this isnt my only car i have 2 more a Vr6turbo and a old shitty 5.slow stang that i do donuts in lol :haha


hahaha 5.slow thats good,
never heard that one before
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intenseneal
 Post subject: Re: Stage 1 cams (402)??
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:19 pm 
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Ok check this out. This is a dyno for a B18a with IHE tuned then with stage 1 crane cams and retune. The results are very low. My tuner emailed this to me, he was the one that I mentioned told me that stage 1 cams dont do much. Does anyone have dyno results that show differently?? Not knocking anyone just doing my R&D.
Yellow is before green is after blue is the hp and torque gained.


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 Post subject: Re: Stage 1 cams (402)??
PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:29 pm 
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Here is my dyno chart from my tuning session. A lot better that the b18 with Crane stage 1 cams. Mine is just IHE and tune. Sorry for all the runs on one chart it was all the pulls he made while tuning. You can see 2 major groups of pulls, the lower 2 are IHE untuned the upper larger group is tuning and tuned.


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