most people i talk to tell me it is a waste of time to tune a non-vtec because their is nothing to tune comparied to ls-vtec is this true most shops will not tune me because of this any thought on tuning it myself or any help please

shop will still tune you if they want the money. Vtec is just a hype. If a shop told you that I wouldn't go there.

can a all motor keep up with the vtec guys with out the help of nitrus or turbo

yea it can...i had an all motor ls and i raced gsr's all the time and won

will jdmp30 pistons crower403 a good intake with a head port and polish do the trick with a fwr more mods or what

We need to not get into bench racing here. The thing is there's a Japanese saying that answers the OP's first question, "NO TUNE, NO LIFE". It doesn't really matter if you are racing with an LS or H22 or even an LS/Vtec, the truth is an entire win can come down to the shear tune on a car. 5 years ago 200 HP on a stock boosted LS tuned with an APEX'i was amazing and now we see CROME tuned stock boosted LS's making 300-325. With that being said you tell me is tuning really a waste of time for anything?

X2!!! very well put...

with that said tuning is the way so with out spending alot of money is it possible to tune myself is there books i can buy or a manual that will teach me to do it myself

Yes there are books and no it isn't easy. Take from personal experience you either have the talent to tune or you don't. It is a Trial and Error thing you'll learn more by doing unfortunately when dealing with the electronic inner workings of an internal combustion engine it doesn't take but a few seconds to really screw up a motor.

my old b1 with a 4-1 header, blox IM and aem intake made 124/110, we chipped the ecu, did about an hour street tune, and about 6 pulls on the dyno, tuning with crome, I made 139.99/123

adjusting timing and fuel is never a bad thing. Nonvtecs are easier to tune so I've been told. We used a b16 base map, and built from there.

my wifes had the same result, she is just a header intake, but she went from 115/105 to 128/115...

Yeah... what he said. Are there any good resources on the net that can get me started in learing how to tune. I'm talking the basics (everybody started not knowing anything). I looked around on pgmfi.com. I didn't find anything that just started with the basics.
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